Thursday, July 13, 2023

Incredible Creed? (working on)

A link to Mr. Rumble's "Incredible Creed of the Jehovah's Witnesses" was presented to us, evidently because of our postings related to Charles Taze Russell. We are not with the Jehovah's Witnesses, and do not defend the JW organization. Mr. Rumble, however, states many things that are highly misleading, to say the least, especially related to Charles Taze Russell, who was never a member of Jehovah's Witnesses. Contrary to what is generally believed, Russell was not the founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Russell preached against such an organization, and he preached against the kind of message presented by that organization.

By 1928, the vast majority of the Bible Students around the world had rejected Rutherford's organization dogma. The Bible Students refused to preach Rutherford's new message related to his organization dogma, and they continued to preach the good news of great joy that will for all the people, without affiliation with Rutherford's new Watch Tower Society. Thus, in 1931, in order to distinguish his followers from the Bible Students, Rutherford had his followers adopt the name "Jehovah's Witnesses". 

There are too historical inaccuracies presented for us address them all here, so we will focus on some of the more serious inaccuracies presented in the article. Much of what is presented in the article has been already been discussed elsewhere. Throughout what we are presenting, one can find certain phrases highlighted and underlined, signifying links to where one can find more information related to what is being discussed. 

It is claimed that Russell became an infidel when he confronted an infidel about the Bible. We haven't been able to verify that Russell thought of himself as having been an infidel. He did, for a short time, become bewildered about what he should believe. It is claimed, evidently due to Russell's encounter with the infidel, that he would "never again ... believe in hell". This is incorrect, since once Russell found out what the Bible hell is, he had no reason to not believe in the Bible hell. 

The statement is made that Russell "in 1878 assumed the title of 'Pastor Russell'". The reality is that Russell was appointed pastor of the group in Allegheny sometime around 1876; he did not just "assume" this title.

It is reported that Russell "founded a new religion of his own". This is incorrect, since Russell did not believe in creating a "new religion". Indeed, we have found no place that he ever spoke of the association of Bible Students as a "religion". Russell did speak of the "true church", but he did not apply this term to his Watch Tower nor to the Bible Students associated with his Watch Tower. He stated: "The one true Church, dear friends, is the church of the Bible. There never has been but that one true Church. All others are false, and if I built up another church I would be building up another false one. That is not our proposition at all. The I.B.S.A. holds out the proposition which the Bible stands for, namely, that all people who are trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ, and consecrated to follow in his steps, are of the church of the living God whose names are written in heaven. The I.B.S.A. recognizes no other church. It does not say that only those in the I.B.S.A. constitute the church." -- What Pastor Russell Said, page 348.

We could not verify that Russell ever claimed "to have written more explanatory books on the Bible than the combined writings of Paul, John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe, and Martin Luther." Such a claim was made, evidently, by Rutherford or one of his associates in the preface of book, "Pastor Russell's Sermons". This book was first published in 1917, and although Russell is usually presented as the "author", Russell was not the compiler of the book, nor did he write its preface. He was obviously the author of the sermons that were chosen to appear in that book. 

It is claimed that Russell was "legally compelled to restore to the purchases the money he had obtained for his miracle wheat." Russell, himself, never obtained any money from the sell of Miracle Wheat, nor was he legally compelled to return any of the money. Russell did provide a notice in the pages of the Watch Tower that if anyone was not satisfied with the wheat, that their money would be returned upon request. No one requested a refund.

It is claimed: "Under oath in court at Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, in 1913, he declared in support of his claims to be an expert Scripture scholar that he knew Greek." The fact is that Russell never claimed to be an "expert Scripture scholar" nor did he claim "that he knew Greek." J. J. Ross actually changed what the court record stated to make it appear that Russell claimed to know Greek. James Penton had access to the actual court record and related what the court record really does say related to this matter. 

However, not even J. J. Ross put forth the assertion that Russell stated in court that was an "expert Scripture scholar". We did some searches on the internet for this phrase related to Russell and found that many make the assertion that Russell claimed such, but so far we have found nothing presented wherein Russell made such a claim. We have no idea where this expression "expert Scripture scholar" attributed to Russell originated from, but it obviously was not from Russell himself. 

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Russell was not a "self-styled prophet." Indeed, he many times stated that he was not a prophet, and that his conclusions presented in his studies are not prophecies.

Mrs. Russell did not divorce Russell on the grounds of adultery; indeed, she plainly stated that she was not accusing her husband of adultery.
http://ctr-rlbible.com/?cat=83

Russell was never a member the Jehovah's Witnesses organization, and actually preached against such authoritarianism.

Russell preached against sectarianism; he preached against one becoming a "Russellite".

Russell's Watch Tower effectually ceased to exist within a few weeks after his death; Rutherford, in effect, created a new Watch Tower Society when he deceitfully had his new by-laws passed.

Regarding:
The Bible Hell

Regarding:
The Trinity Doctrine

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